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Neurodoc's Blog : The Problem with weekly RW backtesting (+ rally losing steam)

Date July 21, 2009    Comments Comments (6)    Rate this post Recommend This Post (49)   
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My new morning buys today from Research Wizard screening will look great based on Fri close on RW backtesting (assuming they hold up the rest of the week), but from today's open less spectacular because they gapped up:

Stock------My return today-------What RW records from Fri

FCX ........-.38%..........................2.7%
GS.............1.24...........................2.03
HA..............2.24...........................3.25
NNI.............0.51............................0.98
UFPI.......... 5.95............................6.25

The average difference in percentage gain today was slightly greater than .8. If you annualize 0.8% weekly, you get a 51% annualized return that didn't happen (whatever happens the rest of the week, that .8% difference is still there). Subtract that from your screening return to get a real return. This of course doesn't happen every week--and sometimes the reverse occurs, but it would be SO much better if RW could backtest its Sun picks from the real world Mon open; the variance is potentially huge if you backtest 6 years. (And as for P&P of course all the above got a bunch of goose eggs today--recording at today's close)

Meanwhile, the modest increase in market averages on lower volume as they butt up against resistance suggests a pause in the action or some retracement.


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Author TickerBandit     Date July 21, 2009 08:34 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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I do a lot of backtesting in Strategy Desk. It is amazing how changing the check interval to an hourly frequency can improve performance over end of day entry/exit. Quite remarkable and the difference in performance is profound, consistent with your findings above. Annualized performance can suffer greater than 50% . This just goes to show the difficulty of trading and timely entry. If a person loses this much outperformance on entry and again on exit, its a pretty tall bar to jump.
Author Neurodoc     Date July 22, 2009 01:28 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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Intraday trading is too complex for me--I like the Zacks idea, and I think the screens I use are good--but I'd just like to see more precision in the backtesting data given. Thanks, TB, for your comment.
Author uwpltre     Date July 22, 2009 17:20 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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Thanks for the warning.
Author rjm77me     Date July 24, 2009 16:19 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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What does VIP means - does it means you buy some service or does ZAKS provide some free access to their web site. Just curious.
Author TickerBandit     Date July 24, 2009 17:36 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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JW,

All I am saying is this. much of any move occurs on reversal. So if one enters at the end of reversal day and then exits at the end of reversal day (down) then the results are incredibly worse than if the reversal can be identified sooner in the day and the execution done sooner. That's all I meant.
Author MackTheKnife     Date July 25, 2009 07:54 Abuse this post Report Abuse
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Howdy, rjm77me!

What does VIP means - does it means you buy some service or does ZAKS provide some free access to their web site.

http://www.peopleandpicks.com/vip/">The P&P VIP Program

Good luck!

MackTheKnife
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